jwalkerh

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Louisiana
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:33:52 AM
I don't know about this, too many cases of unintended acceleration.
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BlueVanGroup

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:33:28 AM
"The only thing they had in common was an automatic transmission."
I still prefer a manual transmission. (And I'm happy to crank my own windows, and ...)
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afghaned

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Hamilton
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:33:09 AM
Have heard this on more than a few reports.
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vizilo

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:32:55 AM
I agree plus you can always stop a car by putting it into neutral and turning off car. Only problem is when you are tailgating or in heavy traffic when you don't have time to take those 2 steps.
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nozzle46

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Little Rock
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:31:37 AM
I think the California incident this week will help finally get to the bottom. Let' s see what Toyota says after this.
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Daveyfudd

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Jackson
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:30:39 AM
How many acceleration crashes will it take to get to the heart of the matter?
[Edited by: Daveyfudd at 3/11/2010 10:31:11 AM EST]
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DirtDauber

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:30:14 AM
I suspect that there is a lot of unneeded lawsuits about this situation.
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sleepyt

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:26:00 AM
Well written analysis of the real ergonomics.
The human element is by far the most unsafe element of an automobile.
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DarthDadJr

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:25:18 AM
There is nothing wrong in having an electronic pedal...what is shortsighted is not having a fail-safe built in that causes the accelerator to disengage when the brake is depressed...Toyota has announced that thing will have this installed by 2011...can owners of Toyotas wait this long?
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ziyulu

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:25:11 AM
Of course braking is bad, it wears out your pads and wastes gasoline.
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bugc

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Boston
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:24:43 AM
So let's get rid of gas pedals.....
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CptnCanada

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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:22:40 AM
Just wait till the I want something for nothing crowd decides to run their Prius into a wall can claim sudden acceleration.. then Sue Toy for big $$$
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civicdutie

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Rochester
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:22:20 AM
We should not have electronic gas pedals, period.
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RocketmanC99

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:21:27 AM
Amen! But now that the cat is out of the badge about gas pedals, how many people are going to blame that instead of their own stupidity?
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Bleeder

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:17:44 AM
Interesting thought, but almost impossible to prove. Very few if any are going to admit this.
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NorthglennBill

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Denver
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:17:19 AM
Somehow, no one has figured out how to fix the loose nut behind the steering wheel. No matter what they do there always seems to be an abundance of this defect.
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FuelBarge

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:16:42 AM
Perhaps an advantage to a stick shift; step on the clutch to disengage.
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doncNJ

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:16:34 AM
So, who wants to buy a TOY now?
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EXTREMESNOW

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Medford
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:15:19 AM
It is more than just the pedal problem.
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Helms

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:11:16 AM
doesn;t explain why the "stick".......smart pedals adn adjustable pedals won;t solve it...need to develop a "fail safe" approach
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nurdco

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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 8:02:35 AM
ADJUSTABLE Brakes have been questionable and this Toyota Issue will NOW highlight this issue...
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WyrelessMike

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Little Rock
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2010 7:36:10 AM
I can attest to that, having done it once or twice, myself.
However, I saw the story about the Prius in California and am fairly convinced that was not that driver's problem.
Then again, the report by the officer that he observed the man literally standing on the brake and not stopping until he was able to engage the emergency brake while standing on the brakes and trying to cut off the engine was fairly convincing evidence...
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