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More regulation needed for Canada oil sands

Reuters -- CALGARY, Alberta, March 17 - Steam-driven projects to extract crude from Canada's oil sands, often held up as more environmentally friendly than mining, have major drawbacks of their own that require more stringent regulation to fix, an environmental think tank said on Wednesday.

The Alberta-based Pembina Institute compared nine projects that employ "in situ" extraction methods -- where steam is pumped into the earth to liquefy the extra-heavy crude so it can be pumped to the surface -- and found all need to make improvements to varying degrees.

"The impacts of in situ have sort of been framed as low-impact oil sands development, but when you look at the data that isn't actually borne out," said Simon Dyer, one of the authors of the report, called "Drilling Deeper."

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Submitted Mar 17, 2010 By: Mudsprings

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heysailor Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:4,650 Points:1,355,070 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 7:34:27 PM Ignore heysailor Report Abuse History has proven time and time again that, unless carefully regulated, businesses leave behind nothing but a wasteland.
LGStas Veteran Author Atlanta Posts:322 Points:184,680 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 7:34:20 PM Ignore LGStas Report Abuse wheres Yoda when we need his wisdom the most??!!
katiejayWV Champion Author West Virginia Posts:1,254 Points:379,415 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 7:32:34 PM Ignore katiejayWV Report Abuse Do it all and let the free market decide which direction to take.
kidrockTX Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:3,854 Points:507,845 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 7:29:01 PM Ignore kidrockTX Report Abuse no more to oil use we need to change fast
diatzikis All-Star Author Raleigh Posts:718 Points:195,805 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 7:25:35 PM Ignore diatzikis Report Abuse We need to stop our need of oil
ItisAJeepThing Champion Author Tucson Posts:11,330 Points:1,172,130 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 7:20:28 PM Ignore ItisAJeepThing Report Abuse We're still importing nearly 60% of the oil we use and we're still using about 70% of that for gasoline to drive our cars, light trucks, and SUVs, and diesel for heavy-duty trucks like 18-wheelers and refuse/recycling trucks. In February, we imported 322 million barrels of petroleum at a total cost of $24.6 billion. That means we're still on track to send approximately 1/3 OF A TRILLION DOLLARS out of the country this year to pay for our gasoline and diesel - and that's with February being a short month and the world still in a recession!
serrog Champion Author Nova Scotia Posts:1,923 Points:619,205 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 7:10:52 PM Ignore serrog Report Abuse This is North America's future insurance for oil.
1Casey Champion Author Albany Posts:2,127 Points:995,600 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 7:07:11 PM Ignore 1Casey Report Abuse Research and development, will have some give and take, testing and exploring, this is still a move forward.
paulydel Champion Author Delaware Posts:4,213 Points:465,530 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 7:06:59 PM Ignore paulydel Report Abuse Higher prices are the norm for the oil companies.
GasRJT All-Star Author Kansas Posts:594 Points:142,495 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 7:04:31 PM Ignore GasRJT Report Abuse Everyone who affects gas prices always tries to come up with some reason to raise them. Don't be surprised if it goes up again cause of this.
herbiepopnecker Champion Author British Columbia Posts:8,747 Points:1,545,865 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 6:57:52 PM Ignore herbiepopnecker Report Abuse We should worry about how much it costs for other people to buy our oil? They're addicts they can't stop buying it.
silvolvo Sophomore Author Twin Cities Posts:244 Points:578,620 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 6:55:26 PM Ignore silvolvo Report Abuse more regulation, really????
2granny Champion Author Michigan Posts:4,227 Points:486,100 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 6:52:24 PM Ignore 2granny Report Abuse Hold on to your wallet higher prices are coming.
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:12,813 Points:2,545,155 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 6:51:53 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse Sounds like another way to drive up prices and kill the middle class.
rfaramir Veteran Author Gasbuddy Posts:348 Points:168,515 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 6:47:25 PM Ignore rfaramir Report Abuse Good news: "Alberta gov't rejects call for more regulation" Bad news: This push is anti-liberty, anti-prosperity, nature-worship at it's worst, trying to use the sledge-hammer of government regulation to fulfill dying old communist power fantasies.
ILANGE9 Champion Author Illinois Posts:2,519 Points:620,480 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 6:33:54 PM Ignore ILANGE9 Report Abuse "an environmental think tank" = leftist, environmental wackos.
dbatw Champion Author St. Louis Posts:1,686 Points:341,165 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 6:30:59 PM Ignore dbatw Report Abuse oil shale is not the "clean" answer to coal. It is certainly not clean or safe. You extract, somebody pays the penalty and guess what, the drillers will be long gone and bankrupt by then...
lross94 Veteran Author Lexington Posts:279 Points:487,135 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 6:27:44 PM Ignore lross94 Report Abuse The more you regulate the more it costs the consumer.
BillA Champion Author Portland Posts:11,150 Points:1,532,685 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 6:25:16 PM Ignore BillA Report Abuse So... For only $90 of effort we can get a $30 drum of sandy, watered Oil. Hurrah for the regulators! As 915Chief said "regulators are always after more regulation." True!
YLHandyman Champion Author Orange County Posts:4,589 Points:830,745 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 6:24:27 PM Ignore YLHandyman Report Abuse This is still better than most other methods.
E-Squirrel Champion Author Orange County Posts:1,628 Points:426,740 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 6:18:53 PM Ignore E-Squirrel Report Abuse Tar sands have held promise for more than fifty years. Its still not ready...
mandoid Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:2,887 Points:613,315 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 6:17:24 PM Ignore mandoid Report Abuse more regs = higher prices
915Chief Champion Author San Diego Posts:3,630 Points:712,775 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 6:08:49 PM Ignore 915Chief Report Abuse regulators are always after more regulation.
knot2swift Veteran Author Calgary Posts:460 Points:135,465 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 5:56:36 PM Ignore knot2swift Report Abuse It's a problem. Some projects require 100 barrels of water to get a barrel of oil out. Others require a barrel of oil to get 2 barrels out. Face it folks. the days you could stick a straw into the ground and have oil gushing out are gone. I'm keeping busy these days making tooling for directional drilling as drilling straight down into a big fat pool of oil is also pretty much history.
Cheney Champion Author Toronto Posts:1,080 Points:1,728,840 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 5:56:27 PM Ignore Cheney Report Abuse bless Canada and its disproportionate contribution to civilization.
oahugasit Veteran Author Hawaii Posts:488 Points:518,405 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 5:56:03 PM Ignore oahugasit Report Abuse sounds complicated ...
SSchmidty Champion Author Illinois Posts:4,321 Points:817,315 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 5:52:57 PM Ignore SSchmidty Report Abuse Don't worry yella ... pure cost factors will reing in this supply AFTER very big $$ in sunk into the refining process, etc, etc
Daveyfudd All-Star Author Jackson Posts:868 Points:211,400 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 5:52:15 PM Ignore Daveyfudd Report Abuse Collecting oil this way is a dirty business.
signwiz Champion Author Indiana Posts:1,091 Points:935,575 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 5:50:03 PM Ignore signwiz Report Abuse More regulations = Higher costs.
pliskin Champion Author Syracuse Posts:3,198 Points:976,335 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 5:47:48 PM Ignore pliskin Report Abuse As the story said there is enough regulations in place to keep an eye on this for the time being. Besides this a new process and should be given some time to prove itself out one way or the other. We still need to explore all the alternatives we have for power available in N. America to free ourselves from the OPEC stranglehold without further damaging our planet.
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star_deceiver Champion Author British Columbia Posts:3,001 Points:702,150 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 17, 2010 5:43:44 PM Ignore star_deceiver Report Abuse How about no... I like the jobs that are created by this!