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All together now ... "Rigs drill, platforms produce"

fuelfix.com -- The U.S. Coast Guard (and news organizations) should be forgiven if in the first hour of the Mariner accident there was confusion about whether it occurred on an oil rig or an oil platform.

But once it was clear this was a production platform and not a drilling rig, getting it right did matter.

Why? Because whether you love fossil fuels or hate them, there’s a big difference between drilling (what a rig does) and producing (what a platform does)..

First, the definitions:

•A rig refers to the piece of equipment that actually drills into the earth to tap into oil and gas reservoirs. These are mobile pieces of equipment that can either be self-propelled ships or vessels that are towed from one location to another.

•A production platform is usually a structure that stays in one

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lgppa Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:11,530 Points:496,235 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Oct 15, 2010 1:13:16 PM Ignore lgppa Report Abuse What do you expect from NPR, to them everything is the same.
Amtrgas Champion Author Oakland Posts:2,551 Points:1,229,530 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 2:20:43 PM Ignore Amtrgas Report Abuse Good information to know.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,266 Points:1,142,300 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 4:15:45 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse for those who scream "drill baby drill" (which the mouthpiece of that movement has not said in a while btw), I guess you're expecting to have cheap gasoline for you and your kids and your grandkids. Hope you have a way to produce it, esp if you are not conserving.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,266 Points:1,142,300 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 4:09:38 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse while accidents happen, it's good that it was not as bad as it could have been. Yes, even production platforms can spill a lot of oil. But at least this one was pretty well contained (not fully, but well).
Bonanza Champion Author Boston Posts:9,288 Points:2,084,980 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2010 3:39:51 AM Ignore Bonanza Report Abuse I am just glad it was not another major spill
HiGramma Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,789 Points:367,830 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 11:16:08 PM Ignore HiGramma Report Abuse Well, it's good to see we're tetchy about accuracy.
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:3,820 Points:680,225 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 11:04:40 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse Maybe they should not report in the first hour if there is confusion...
gj35 All-Star Author San Diego Posts:663 Points:472,680 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 10:47:21 PM Ignore gj35 Report Abuse Let them drill. We need our own oil.
Wizrd03 Champion Author Illinois Posts:5,776 Points:1,166,185 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 10:35:05 PM Ignore Wizrd03 Report Abuse To the layman anything on the water that deals with oil is now a danger thanks to the uninformed gov't.
rfaramir Veteran Author Texas Posts:466 Points:406,005 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 10:27:00 PM Ignore rfaramir Report Abuse nigelb, no I don't watch Fox News, as I refuse to pay for cable. I do still like listening to classical music, but I buy my own so I don't have to depend on government-subsidized radio, and deal with their statist editorial stance. And why would I like the McCarthy era? Disagreeing with communists and government persecution of them are two different things. That was heavy-handed statist intrusion into people's political views, just as government warnings about Marines returning from Iraq being possible terrorist material was unjustified fear-mongering. I'm for less force and aggression, more liberty and free, voluntary trade. Less government, as little as possible, is my goal. I don't know if we can totally do without it, but I'd like to try. Until then, I'll start with just getting less of it, as it is the biggest use of force intruding into people's lives that I know of. It is immoral and inefficient; fight it with arguments of idealism or practicality, I don't care, just fight it.
Bezalel Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:9,763 Points:1,827,830 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 10:18:39 PM Ignore Bezalel Report Abuse This was on the home page yesterday.
CobraLeader Champion Author New Jersey Posts:267,902 Points:1,200,750 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 10:15:33 PM Ignore CobraLeader Report Abuse ... The Coast Guard is another Federal agency that doesn't know what it's doing! ... ... They're better than the other agencies - but the CG's admiral recently RETIRED! ... ... What kind of leadership does the Coast Guard have RE: high technology? ... [Edited by: CobraLeader at 9/6/2010 12:16:21 AM EST]
Bigwaynef Champion Author South Carolina Posts:7,657 Points:1,613,960 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 10:13:35 PM Ignore Bigwaynef Report Abuse I don't care where we drill, land, sea or air...just drill!
tedjm1 Champion Author New York Posts:3,540 Points:389,685 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 10:13:24 PM Ignore tedjm1 Report Abuse Doesn't matter. Anything happens to those rigs is a problem.
4warned Champion Author Michigan Posts:5,512 Points:1,739,140 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 10:12:57 PM Ignore 4warned Report Abuse Maybe I will understand future articles better now.
rx7racerca Champion Author Calgary Posts:2,581 Points:707,655 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 10:08:58 PM Ignore rx7racerca Report Abuse I keep seeing "A spill is a spill" in comments - except in the case of the Mariner production platform, there wasn't a spill. Just a fire - not that that isn't serious.
HEBster Champion Author Kentucky Posts:6,474 Points:1,915,715 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 10:06:18 PM Ignore HEBster Report Abuse Interesting read...
Toppers Champion Author Atlanta Posts:6,673 Points:2,006,475 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 10:03:28 PM Ignore Toppers Report Abuse Thanks for the info...
PetroPedro All-Star Author Florida Posts:753 Points:163,590 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 9:55:26 PM Ignore PetroPedro Report Abuse drilling 101
gilfarm Champion Author Alabama Posts:4,616 Points:1,504,990 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 9:52:14 PM Ignore gilfarm Report Abuse Ok, who cares.
pecos Champion Author Columbus Posts:5,943 Points:1,697,215 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 9:50:12 PM Ignore pecos Report Abuse Spills could happen anywhere anytime.
nigelb Champion Author Virginia Posts:6,284 Points:959,370 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 9:47:50 PM Ignore nigelb Report Abuse rfaramir - Oooh! I bet you get your misinformation from Fox "views" Note: I did not use the word 'news' in that last sentence. Yea, good ole Fox - "We distort, you report" Unfair and unbalanced. I must confess I would rather hear NPR's classical music than Hannity or the insane Glen Beck any day of the week. Better check under your bed before you go to sleep, there might be a commie hiding there! Go back to the McCarthy era, where you belong! [Edited by: nigelb at 9/5/2010 11:49:14 PM EST]
AKmailman Champion Author Alaska Posts:3,298 Points:1,099,495 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 9:45:27 PM Ignore AKmailman Report Abuse a spill is still a spill, regardless where it came from
76chevy Champion Author Toledo Posts:1,652 Points:353,355 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 9:43:19 PM Ignore 76chevy Report Abuse Reporters, and their editors, only care about sensationalism.....facts.... truth....nah!
Buck_on_Bass Champion Author Tennessee Posts:5,175 Points:1,040,065 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 9:32:41 PM Ignore Buck_on_Bass Report Abuse Many reporters do not have the technical knowledge and do not seek that knowledge in the 'rush to publish' and not have the story out as fast as the competitors. This applies to entire oil production and delivery system.
rfaramir Veteran Author Texas Posts:466 Points:406,005 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 9:31:02 PM Ignore rfaramir Report Abuse "the words were used interchangeably on NPR" This goes to show how low NPR has sunk as it has gotten more communist and partisan. They don't care to get it right anymore, so long as their propaganda gets out. I used to have respect for them, thinking that because they played Classical music that they must have higher education and had everyone's best interests in mind. Maybe they used to care, or maybe I was just too innocent to notice their elitist snobbery when I was younger, but it's all political now. But articles like this are good. I wasn't sure of the difference, either. I knew a 'rig' drilled, but wasn't sure what a platform was; maybe it drilled, too, but no, it produces. Thanks for clearing it up.
teafortwo Champion Author Washington Posts:15,332 Points:923,055 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 9:23:10 PM Ignore teafortwo Report Abuse In order to be make good decisions, it really helps to be informed. Every article I read about the Mariner accident gave conflicting information about what the Mariner actually is. This was the first article that cleared up that confusion and why I decided to post it here on GB. That said, I did not care much for the egg analogy. I think of the difference more in terms of the difference between building a house and living in one. While building a home, there are a lot of hazards from all kinds of heavy equipment and processes that are occurring with lots of folks performing specialized work. It can be an organized chaos. However, once the home is finished, all the workmen and heavy equipment are gone and there are fewer dangers. A certain amount of caution is still needed; but in most instances, you are not likely to get run over by a bulldozer or backhoe or whacked in the head with a two-by-four. FROM THE ARTICLE: But once it was clear this was a production platform and not a drilling rig, getting it right did matter. Why? Because whether you love fossil fuels or hate them, there’s a big difference between drilling (what a rig does) and producing (what a platform does) when it comes to issues of policy, safety and pollution potential. First, the definitions: •A rig refers to the piece of equipment that actually drills into the earth to tap into oil and gas reservoirs. These are mobile pieces of equipment that can either be self-propelled ships or vessels that are towed from one location to another. •A production platform is usually a structure that stays in one place, pulling oil and gas from wells that have already been drilled. To the energy industry it’s an important distinction because the potential for trouble while drilling is generally a lot greater than on a production platform. There are different technologies involved, different processes, different kinds of workers. The cause of the Mariner accident is likely going to be very different from the cause of the Deepwater Horizon accident, which triggered the drilling moratorium. It should also matter to opponents of the fossil fuel industry. If they’re going to call for changes, it might be best to focus efforts on the right problem. Making the drilling moratorium permanent — as some people demanded after the accident was reported — wouldn’t have prevented the accident at the production platform.
Lukus Champion Author Halifax Posts:6,026 Points:1,216,610 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 9:20:30 PM Ignore Lukus Report Abuse Mistakes happen on both drill rigs and production platforms.
Romey08 Champion Author Virginia Posts:4,232 Points:1,024,250 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 9:18:19 PM Ignore Romey08 Report Abuse Whatever
judgemobile Champion Author Ohio Posts:5,245 Points:1,983,145 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 9:10:54 PM Ignore judgemobile Report Abuse It all depends on what the meaning of "IS" is.
PithyOpiner Champion Author Stockton Posts:12,310 Points:1,172,725 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 9:10:18 PM Ignore PithyOpiner Report Abuse Well, that clears that up. Problems can occur on either.
tc316 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:7,743 Points:1,271,980 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 9:00:04 PM Ignore tc316 Report Abuse Ho hum
Lizzylou Champion Author Stockton Posts:7,025 Points:2,000,050 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 9:00:02 PM Ignore Lizzylou Report Abuse And the main point is???
oldiesman Champion Author New York Posts:4,216 Points:1,763,875 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 8:53:50 PM Ignore oldiesman Report Abuse The oil rig was a catastrophe and the production platform was an accident. This is why the media is it's own worst enemy, say nothing until you have your facts right.
Goatroper Champion Author Dallas Posts:4,673 Points:911,470 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 8:50:02 PM Ignore Goatroper Report Abuse All of the media lies. To what extent is the key. Wasn't it Mark Twain that said don't believe anything you read and only half of what you see
1Casey Champion Author Albany Posts:4,521 Points:1,419,785 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 8:46:57 PM Ignore 1Casey Report Abuse Live and learn.
aldog365 Champion Author Nashville Posts:3,150 Points:1,559,710 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 8:46:00 PM Ignore aldog365 Report Abuse That is so true FordGuy48.
skybiker Champion Author South Carolina Posts:5,486 Points:1,132,465 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 8:45:55 PM Ignore skybiker Report Abuse Facts aren't important to the "New Press".. Politics trumps the truth!!....
Bruno44 Champion Author Texas Posts:4,851 Points:1,323,975 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 8:45:29 PM Ignore Bruno44 Report Abuse Agree with toadNY.
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:5,619 Points:1,114,250 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 8:45:25 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse details count!
DarthDadJr Champion Author Virginia Posts:5,529 Points:1,120,185 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 8:44:07 PM Ignore DarthDadJr Report Abuse ...so I assume this "bias media" includes Fox News too?
52MPG Champion Author Dayton Posts:4,909 Points:1,277,505 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 8:43:46 PM Ignore 52MPG Report Abuse Rigs drill, platforms produce, Oil burns - fix the problem and get on with life.
toadNY Champion Author Albany Posts:4,558 Points:1,046,550 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 8:42:44 PM Ignore toadNY Report Abuse obama talked change, I've hav't seen any thing good for the working middle class. Join the AMERICAN REVOLUTION TO VOTE ALL INCUMBENTS OUT THIS NOVEMBER! Thats all 435 members of the house an 37 members of the senate.
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Jeff1944 Champion Author South Dakota Posts:3,088 Points:677,810 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 8:33:52 PM Ignore Jeff1944 Report Abuse So we can't have a platform, if it hasn't been drilled by a rig?
hibsaw Champion Author Mississippi Posts:5,671 Points:1,215,065 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 8:29:39 PM Ignore hibsaw Report Abuse That will make the price of gasoline go up.
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FordGuy48 Champion Author Albuquerque Posts:1,324 Points:631,230 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 8:20:19 PM Ignore FordGuy48 Report Abuse Please, don't ever believe anything you hear from our biased news media in this country, they always try and blow everything out of proportion!
RENEGADEGAS Champion Author Missouri Posts:12,054 Points:1,127,180 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 5, 2010 8:19:24 PM Ignore RENEGADEGAS Report Abuse Yet another story that has nothing to do with this site. This is getting to be a real problem with some.