chemist74

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2010 11:32:00 AM
The gasoline engine is only used to recharge the batteries. What idiot at GM decided to use an engine that requires premium fuel?
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jeskibuff

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 5:44:54 PM
highdesertman said: "This blogger obviously has some kind of bone to pick with GM"
Probably most people who have owned a GM product has some kind of bone to pick with GM.
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remay

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Houston
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 12:29:25 PM
"It also requires premium gasoline, seats only four people (the battery runs down the center of the car, preventing a rear bench) and has less head and leg room than the $17,000 Chevrolet Cruze, which is more or less the non-electric version of the Volt. "
Uh, in my opinion that's 3 strikes, not including the price... you're out.
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Martinman

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 5:55:15 AM
THIS IS NOT NEWS.
It IS an EDITORIAL OPINION (op-ed).
And it DOESN'T BELONG HERE, in the Recent News section.
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granitestater

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 5:03:52 AM
Lemon? More like Lemon-Lime. Or at least, a horse-designed-by-committee (camel). But then Ford didn't start out with the Mustang. It started with the Model T. Not exactly something that would attract crowds today...
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Jeff4U

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 6:02:33 PM
In that case highdesertman, we'll leave this car and it's price tag as a special purchase just for you. Meanwhile, get back to us later on ... let us know how badly you get reamed when those batteries need replacing.
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highdesertman

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Albuquerque
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 2:27:43 PM
Worth noting that this is an op-ed opinion piece and not a NYT news story. From pictures I've seen, the Volt looks nothing like a Prius and of course uses a totally different plug-in hybrid design. This blogger obviously has some kind of bone to pick with GM and sounds like he may be on the Toyota payroll. I'd rather wait until the unbiased reviews come in before deciding whether it's a lemon.
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car253

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 2:07:07 PM
Speaking of LEMONS, Toyota has recalled 9,500,000 REAL UNSAFE LEMONS.
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derKraut

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 2:02:34 PM
It would be funny and predictable were it not so sad.
Sad because provincial governments here gave purchasers a big incentive to buy yet another GM LEMON.
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BurntOrange

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Austin
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 2:01:17 PM
Poor Article.
GM always knew that the Volt would be low-volume and/or a money-loser in 2007. It will be a while before the cost of materials allows for a cost-competitive plug-in hybrid.
That is why they are only building 10,000 of them, and limiting the markets where they will be sold.
The Volt will (hopefully) do 2 things for GM:
1) Give GM a proving ground to work out the kinks of a plug-in hybrid. Ideally the Volt-2 or Volt-3 will be cost-competitive with gas vehicles, and best-of-breed.
2) Give GM some good PR.
[Edited by: BurntOrange at 7/30/2010 4:02:09 PM EST]
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VanIsleRover

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:49:17 PM
The designers like making concept cars for the car shows. They promise us good quality then import parts made in foreign countries and the problems continue. The oil companies want us to keep using oil and gasoline. It's the $$$$$
Meanwhile we have no choices if we want alternatives. There is always someone out there putting a stop to innovative ideas.
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tarheelcoastie

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Greensboro
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 1:40:01 PM
If there is any money left to steal, GM will keep making crap ... just they have for the past 30 years. Who runs a business that loses billions each QUARTER???
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PathfinderSC

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 11:54:57 AM
GM is good at building Lemons.
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